Just a quick post this morning regarding this story in yesterday’s New York Times about Google’s admission to violations of privacy as a component of its Street View project. For those who haven’t followed this story, the crux of it is that while Google’s vehicles have been combing the streets, mapping the world through pictures (something that is admittedly very useful), they’ve kinda been collecting personal data from household computers with open wi-fi connections. I suggest reading the article for deeper insight.
As I have argued many times, and shall continue to argue, there’s nothing wrong with questioning the federal government’s ability or willingness to spy on us in cyberspace; but there’s a lot wrong with over-dramatizing this fear while turning a blind eye to both the capacity and the motive for a company like Google to point its virtual proboscis where we may not want it. Moreover, the Electronic Frontier Foundation, which I criticize with some frequency, is perceived as a privacy advocate in the digital age but remains rather silent on the matter of Google’s invasions of privacy in contrast to the amount of “ink” it devotes to drones and other forms of government surveillance.
I leave it to you to decide which worries you more: a government with a limited budget, a defined scope for surveillance, and a mess of competing oversight processes; or a private corporation whose entire business model is based on amassing every bit of data it can gather.
Also, as is so easily forgotten these days, the government is elected by and has to answer to “we the people.” Not so much with a private company.
Corporations are also [thankfully] regulated to some
extent.
There’s also questions about potential sharing of
information between Google and governments. Considering their
previous capitulation to the Chinese government on censorship, can
we actually trust that there is no chance of this ever happening?
Enough to (literally) bet people’s lives on it? Especially when you
consider that this data is going to stay around. You don’t only
have to trust Google now, you have to trust them for the
foreseeable future. It’s worth noting that Google complied with 93%
of the requests to hand over data to US government agencies in the
second half of 2011. There’s also strong circumstantial evidence
that they have a working partnership with the NSA. People can
obviously take different perspectives on whether that’s reasonable.
But it’s evident that Google aren’t de facto opposed to working
closely with governments and giving them their data. So it’s
entirely inconsistent to claim to oppose widening government
surveillance, yet ignore the fact that Google is a significant
conduit for that.
This is both true and also, in my opinion, not cause for alarm so much as grounds for awareness. Make no mistake that large companies who collect data will comply with government requests of this nature. There’s nothing new about this, and it isn’t all that scary because “the government” isn’t actually interested in most people to the extent that our growing paranoia would imply. My point is to look at the “privacy” mission of organizations like EFF and recognize how they just might be manipulating this fear toward a broad agenda that just so happens to coincide with the business agenda of Silicon Valley. It’s SOP in political tactics, and I find it amusing that my fellow progressives are as vulnerable to these shenanigans as the conservatives they think are the only suckers.
The thing is, the premise of your entire blog post is
simply not true. EFF has called out Google for this exact issue,
and a huge amount of issues in the past. Google and EFF are by no
means friends. Neither is EFF and Apple (see: jailbreaking). Or
Facebook. Or any major tech company really. Contrast this with
organization you blog for (Copyright Alliance) which are
literally bought and paid for by corporate
interests, and it feels even more petty. So please, if you want to
unload on Google or CA-like organizations like the Internet
Association feel free. But the EFF fights for the privacy and civil
rights of citizens everywhere, against governments, technology
companies and media companies alike. And they are one of the few
organizations actually doing this. So please, leave the EFF out of
it. Thank you.
And for the record, I’m lambasting hysteria, which the EFF helps to promote in my opinion. Meanwhile, they seem to have no comment on the entire Streets project in which Google now admits to doing the very thing EFF and other privacy advocates claim the government is doing or is about to do.
“But the EFF fights for the privacy and civil rights of citizens everywhere, against governments, technology companies and media companies alike. And they are one of the few organizations actually doing this.”
Privacy International. ACLU. Index on Censorship. First Amendment Coalition. Reporters Without Borders. Statewatch.
That’s just off the top of my head. All of those obviously have a varying focus, but the EFF really aren’t the only game in town.
I agree with you that they have criticised Google at times. Levine acknowledges that and he’s no supporter. I also accept that they’ve done a lot of good work.
None of that alters the fact that they accept funding from an organisation that they’re supposed to be monitoring, indeed, one of the organisations that’s causing a massive issue for privacy advocates currently.
That’s highly problematic, unless you think that companies fund lobbying groups out of the goodness of their heart. I don’t. Google donate money because it serves their corporate interest, just like any company. I’d rather support untarnished organisations like PI. (I dislike corporate lobbying in general. It dirties the political process).
As an afterthought, it’s worth noting that Privacy
International have traditionally been very
hostile to Google. But then, unlike the EFF, PI don’t get funded by
Google.
To government; we are people..
… to Google; we are DATA.
..Data in which they will monetize in any way shape or form that they can get away with.
That the EFF gives them a free pass on literally driving around and spying on you inside and out of your home comes to no surprise to me. For that to be a surprise, you’d actually have to believe the EFF was for ‘the people’ and not for their own nefarious agendas.
That the EFF gives them a free pass on literally
driving around and spying on you inside and out of your home comes
to no surprise to me. This is a outright fabrication.
https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2012/02/time-make-amends-google-circumvents-privacy-settings-safari-users
https://www.eff.org/cases/authors-guild-v-google
https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2013/03/google-censoring-android-apps
https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2012/02/what-actually-changed-google%27s-privacy-policy
https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2013/03/new-statistics-about-national-security-letters-google-transparency-report
https://www.eff.org/press/releases/google-book-search-case-threatens-librarians-access-information
https://www.eff.org/mention/privacy-brouhaha-reveals-googles-split-personality
https://www.eff.org/mention/google-sued-over-safari-privacy-snafu
Just glancing at these quickly, do any address Street View? And just one that I clicked on is about EFF essentially defending the Google Books project.
At last but not least:
https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2010/05/time-google-grow-make-open-wi-fi-privacy-mistake
Now, that I’m at my real computer, I can respond to this properly. The post I wrote is about contrast, and language matters a lot. EFF uses headlines and images to promote the idea that your privacy will be, is being, invaded by government agencies; but don’t worry because EFF is on the front lines to protect your interests. And there can even be truth to these statements. But this link that you sent last almost reads like a press release for Google. How many times, including the headline, does the word “mistake” appear in that post? A lot in contrast to how many privacy concerns are raised with regard to Google, including its future aims to market Google Glass. Also, the tagging is interesting because a search on “Google Street” reveals fewer relevant results than, say, “Google Wifi.” And then, of course, as James points out, there’s a smattering posts or links to 3rd party articles from a few years ago, but nothing on the heels of this NY Times story from last week.
I’m not saying everything the EFF does is pure shill for their corporate supporters (something you want to believe about Copyright Alliance), and the ruling in the NSL letters case featured on their HP today looks to my eye like a constitutional win. But no, in this particular matter on privacy, I don’t see any grounds for letting them off the hook.
…wow… they mentioned it once, 3
YEARS AGO. No wonder it took you so long to actually find a link to
the actual topic, M.
Exactly… i would hardly call that raising awareness of
ACTUAL threats (not even ‘threats’ these are actual
invasions!) propagated by the ‘do no evil’
mega-corporation. It’s almost like the EFF takes millions of
dollars from Google… oh wait, they do…
You can’t really compare corporate spying with government spying. One has the power to arrest and kill while the other uses it to sell you things. I can always say no to whatever Google wants to sell me based on what they know about me, but I can’t stop the government from raiding my house. One obviously has a disproportionate amount of power over me.
That’s true, but concerns over police-state tactics, which I also consider overblown, are a separate matter from the focus on privacy and the hypocrisy of EFF in this context.